Any reputed SAFC TUNERS ?

[blackboost]

I need a reputed SAFC Tuner, that could have a dyno sheet or time slip to back up his tune. I found one from looking at members sig his names Rick and he had Cunha (i believe his name is) street tune his gsx which has 16g and supporting mods @ 23 psi he ran a 11.9 @ 115. Which was exactly what i was looking for, I talked to Cunha he said he charges 250$. I spoke to Rick a couple times over PM's, and told him thats a little too much for a street tune, he then said, "Like i said before your looking for a cheap price not a good tune.100-150 is usually just for dyno time. but go where ever you please at this point we dont even want you to bring the car to us. We dont need the headaches." Which I deemed completely unprofessional, If someone knows anybody that could back up his tunes, that would be awesome thanks.

[Adriano]

How much are u willing to spend? $250 is cheap. And Cunha has over 50 dynos sheet off 10 seconds street cars that he has tuned to show how reputable he is. He had a 11.3 1g way back before you could even drive. And dont be judging a person that you have have never delt or met before.

cheap, fast, ans reliable. Choose 2

Adriano

[BigT]

I need a reputed SAFC Tuner, that could have a dyno sheet or time slip to back up his tune. I found one from looking at members sig his names Rick and he had Cunha (i believe his name is) street tune his gsx which has 16g and supporting mods @ 23 psi he ran a 11.9 @ 115. Which was exactly what i was looking for, I talked to Cunha he said he charges 250$. I spoke to Rick a couple times over PM's, and told him thats a little too much for a street tune, he then said, "Like i said before your looking for a cheap price not a good tune.100-150 is usually just for dyno time. but go where ever you please at this point we dont even want you to bring the car to us. We dont need the headaches." Which I deemed completely unprofessional, If someone knows anybody that could back up his tunes, that would be awesome thanks.

Professional tuning isn't cheap. Pay up and shutup.


Or learn to do it yourself.

[rsk_wannabe]

BB: Everything is about choices and priorities. On one hand, you would like the car to run more optimally. On the other hand, $250 is not a small amount of money for something that you do not absolutely need... assuming of course that your car is not running so badly that a tune up is needed. If that were the case, then the money is better spent on getting the car to a good baseline position before the type of tuning that Cunha and crew would perform.

If Rick's quoted price is not satisfactory for your desire, then you can go to another shop willing to do such service for a price that is acceptable, but be prepared to accept the consequences of a bad tune which may lead to more expensive consequences. However, there is no need to publish the context of your conversations with Rick and label them unprofessional. Those choices of how to deal with customers are Rick's and he also bears the consequences of his actions, i.e. loss of your current and future business.

Or as suggested by T, another choice is to learn to do it yourself. This may in the long run be the most economical, since after every modification or even change in temperature, your car will require furher adjustment to get the optimal level of performance you seek. But note that getting 11's on a 16G is not easy and the guys from Rick's crew are able to do that since they live DSMs (and other platforms). Expecting similar results is not realistic unless you are willing to bear the price for such performance, e.g. lessened reliability or longevity of your motor.

The final option would be to simply be happy with the current performance (not sure where that is) if it provides you a fair level of hp for the level of modifications. I know that it is tough to read of the HP and 1/4 mile times of some of these cars and see the level of modifications are not unlike your own car, but if you chase the same level of performance, understand that there are many other issues that arise that are not as readily posted... or are deemed that important by the car owner who may have different priorities than yourself.

Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to give you a few words from my experiences which resulted in $1000s of mods, at least two tries at rebuilding a motor, with the last attempt being a motor that just passed 50K miles, and gets 29 mpg. I have not brought it to the track nor do I know what its hp/torque is. But it provides a reasonable amount of zip and serves its purpose.

[Monger]

I dont think Rick was being unprofessional, I think he was getting straight to the point. Time is money and you wasted his. $250 is going to seem like a drop in the bucket after you pop your motor.

[blcknspo0ln]

Learn it yourself. A street tune will give you optimum performance at that particular time and then once you change ONE thing in your setup, you'll have to retune. Do you want to pay someone 250 for everytime you change your setup? Learn it yourself, it's easy (just takes time to gain the knowledge).

[blackboost]

I am sorry I never heard of Cunha, i tried searching his name. Why is this turning into a flame war, I didn't know 250$ was cheap. I remember Calling up Turbo Trix and asking them how much it would cost for a dyno-tune and i remember it was somewhere around 100-150.

BrRyder, i am not judging anyone, I just said the way he rejected me was unprofessional, if he really wanted my business he would've convinced me, why 250 is not such a bad number for a good tune.

Monger how did I waste his time??

[twizzle]

everyone is on the attack, way to go guys! 250$ is not worth it if all you have is an afc. how much better can cunha tune a afc compared to turbotrix. unless you had ems, or dsmlink, or something more tunable, theres no way that paying the cost of an afc, to tune an afc, is worth it. besides, you can street tune yourself and save a shitload of money. i'm not knocking cunha, but without a proper tuning setup (eprom, ems, etc) theres no way his tune is worth it.

[TheGreenMonster]

take your $250,get a wideband and hopefully,you have a logger,and its childsplay tuning an AFC if you pay for an hour on a dyno

[atc250r]

+1

Spend the $250 on a wideband and you can get a damn good street tune on it yourself. MMCD allows you to log a wideband now so it really doesn't get much easier than that. Do a pull, read the log for AFR's, adjust SAFC, repeat until AFR's are good. I'm sure that an experienced tuner can get more out of it than you or I could though. As for his telling you to not bother coming in, I can see where he's coming from. It can be frustrating to deal with "tire kickers" all day when you're trying to run a business and I guess he has enough business as it is.

John

[otofmyway6]

yea he already has the AEM wideband so with a logger he'll be good to go

[vergin_sergin]

If you still dont want to get a wide band (which seems like the best route to go), you can always have AMS tune your AFC on their dyno. Im pretty sure they are a reputable shop. A few 1000hp lancers have been spawned there on numerous occasions. Plus they only charged me $185 for my AFC tune + dyno time.

Down side is that they are located in Chicago.