Swapping out the turbo for a blower.....

[NitrousPete]

.....literally!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Eagle-Ta ... otohosting (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Eagle-Talon-Vision-TSI-Summit-Supercharger-turbo_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33741QQitemZ80307 95011QQrdZ1#ebayphotohosting)

:lol: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[DrSmile]

Welcome to last... I mean the year before last!

[NitrousPete]

Welcome to last... I mean the year before last!

Thanks! I dropped a twenty a couple years ago, maybe I'll find it now.... :P

[Utah Joe]

those electric superchargers are so awesome!!!!!!!!!! Only $140, dam what a bargin. :)

[TuRBoTaLooN95]

and here i am thinking you were going to put an actual blower on the car...wasn't sure how...but it'd be cool. superchargers rule! 8)

[gtluke]

and here i am thinking you were going to put an actual blower on the car...wasn't sure how...but it'd be cool. superchargers rule! 8)

yes! half the efficiency of a turbo is awesome! i love that!

[1gnasty]

and here i am thinking you were going to put an actual blower on the car...wasn't sure how...but it'd be cool. superchargers rule! 8)

yes! half the efficiency of a turbo is awesome! i love that!
plus the stupid belt breaking all the time 8)

[TuRBoTaLooN95]

supercharger: spool up time ~ 0 seconds 8)

[gtluke]

what are you joking? thats because it makes 5 psi
if i had a turbo on my galant with its power gain equal to a GM blower, (maybe like a 13g or smaller) it would spool to 5 psi the same, but make double the HP
you can not justify inefficiency with some bogus spool time.

[1gnasty]

supercharger: spool up time ~ 0 seconds 8)
top end 0 :lol:

[rotorocker]

I'm surprised no one said noise. I cant stand the sound superchargers make. Stupid whining sound. My 14b did that before I blew it up (the first time)

[CollegeDropout]

i think they sound cool, theyre probably a lot more reliable than turbo cars too.

[rotorocker]

depends what boost you run.

[gtluke]

they are more reliable because they don't make as much power

[Muggus]

So then Luke why dont you race this with your turbo stang, its only superchagered it cant be making any real power.
http://www.theautochannel.com/callahan/drags/photos/anderson01.jpg

[CollegeDropout]

that dragster with a turbo would be dirty :lol:

[gtluke]

turbo's are outlawed in top fuel

[chrisAWD]

i don't know, i can't imagine any top fuel/funny car teams switching to turbo's even if they could.

[gtluke]

what class allows turbos that isn't DOMINATED by turbos?
i know in mustang racing turbocharged cars are SEVERELY weighed down and limited on like fucking everything.

[chrisAWD]

there's a bit of a difference between mustang door slammers and a top fuel dragster. besides, in mustang racing they don't run 90% nitro, or 85% or whatever it is these days.

[Utah Joe]

top fuel cars would run turbo's if they were allowed to I am sure. Just like top fuel boat, some of which run monster turbo's It takes about 800hp to turn the 14-71 blower that a TF car runs. TF cars are so ristricted anyway. Even running 4.5 second, they are very limited by the rules. Only 500CI motors, limited ammount of nitro, limits on the pulley sizes on the blower, tire size, etc... I bet the caould run 3's if they had less rules. But then they would explode on every other run and it would be too expensive and dangerous.

[chrisAWD]

i see your point, but even if they allowed fuelers to use turbo's tommorrow(assuming turbo's even exist that can flow enough air for 7-8k horse), i bet it would be years before a single turbo car started competing competitively. think of the years and years and years of experience these pit crews and chiefs have with the blowers, would basically just have to start over.

[1gnasty]

So then Luke why dont you race this with your turbo stang, its only superchagered it cant be making any real power.
http://www.theautochannel.com/callahan/drags/photos/anderson01.jpg
verry diferent class and that motor is like 700ci runing alcohol

[NitrousPete]

i don't know, i can't imagine any top fuel/funny car teams switching to turbo's even if they could.

It doesn't really matter, those cars make more HP than they ever use. The whole key to a winning car in top fuel is keeping the motor together and getting the clutch right. That clutch is slipping from the starting line to the parachutes, they're not even using the full potential of the motors.

Honestly I wonder how much faster they can get those cars to go; I think in coming years we're going to see what many other forms of motorsports have seen in the last few years, an actual slowing of the cars down. Why? Two reasons. One, the human body can only take so much. How many more G's can a driver sustain safely launching a 4 second dragster. Two, it levels the playing field by allowing teams with less funding for parts and R&D to still field a competative car. How can Joe Racer compete with teams that spent more money doing R&D on say, cylinder head design than Joe Racer spent on his entire car?

[chrisAWD]

good points pete....i was gonna mention that fact about getting the power to the pavement last night, but got sidetracked.

[steveVR4]

think of the years and years and years of experience these pit crews and chiefs have with the blowers, would basically just have to start over.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with the turbo vs SC argument.

[chrisAWD]

think of the years and years and years of experience these pit crews and chiefs have with the blowers, would basically just have to start over.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with the turbo vs SC argument.

yeah, like this thread is on it's original topic already?

[95RedRS]

How can you not like the sound of a Supercharger. A Pullied 03 04 CObra Sounds So Sexy.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:)

I envy the Mini Cooper guys who twin charge them...they go wee and pssht.

[TuRBoTaLooN95]

How can you not like the sound of a Supercharger. A Pullied 03 04 CObra Sounds So Sexy.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:)

I envy the Mini Cooper guys who twin charge them...they go wee and pssht.

hahahahaha :lol:

[95RedRS]

^ He goes Wee to.

How is the Cobalt?...Can it hang with SRT's?

[TuRBoTaLooN95]

^ He goes Wee to.

How is the Cobalt?...Can it hang with SRT's?

definatley. they have a slight advantage over the cobalt from the factory...but all depends on driver at that point.

[rotorocker]

dont forget about the option for lsd

[gtluke]

i was looking for this pic when this post was active, and i found it now so...
if top fuel went turbo it would start like this:
http://www.maximumpsi.com/images/land/turbo/quad_turbo.jpg

[Nate Crisman]

i was looking for this pic when this post was active, and i found it now so...
if top fuel went turbo it would start like this:
http://www.maximumpsi.com/images/land/turbo/quad_turbo.jpg

holy shit. Is that the new quad turbo V8 powered floor jack? That thing must be one hell of a ride from the driving position shown in that pic. I knew top fuel was dangerous, but dude...he's steering wiht the vlave cover. good thing it will go 3's, woiudn't want to burn hands on the vlave covers, but they should be good for 3 seconds. :lol: :lol:

[helite99]

holy shit

[gtluke]

wtf? nate its on an engine dyno.

i think nate is high

[hecdws]

damn thats some serious stuff right there. maybe i can just strap it to the roof of the vr4 and go back in time to when i knew nothing about mitsubishi and kick myself in the nuts when i read the ad for the vr4 in the paper.

[I_LOVE_DSMS]

damn thats some serious stuff right there. maybe i can just strap it to the roof of the vr4 and go back in time to when i knew nothing about mitsubishi and kick myself in the nuts when i read the ad for the vr4 in the paper.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Nate Crisman]

wtf? nate its on an engine dyno.

i think nate is high


we need a Emoticon for "no shit sherlock". Im not high, it just wasn't as funny as I'd hoped.

[gtluke]

yeah it was pretty bad

[T_K]

There's no worse feeling in the universe than when your joke fails... :oops:

[twizzle]

oh, there is...its when you realize you own a car that actually eats money.

who needs emoticons when you have oversized pictures.

http://static.flickr.com/23/24427597_0cba60d473_o.jpg

[NitrousPete]

i was looking for this pic when this post was active, and i found it now so...
if top fuel went turbo it would start like this:
http://www.maximumpsi.com/images/land/turbo/quad_turbo.jpg

If I remember right, that's a quad turbo Chevy based motor that lives in a Pro Stock Camaro. NHRA actually made him detune that motor significantly; I believe it's capable of close to three THOUSAND horsepower 8)

Edit: Found the link http://popularhotrodding.com/enginemast ... _turbo_bb/ (http://popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/0305em_turbo_bb/)

Very cool stuff; no gaskets in the entire motor for example.

[gtluke]

you can tell he's got some sort of restriction, check out the a/r on those bitches

[antlip]

i wonder if i can put that in my eclipse? haha maybe in the hatch

[twizzle]

that would never fit in the hatch of a dsm.

[chrisAWD]

i was looking for this pic when this post was active, and i found it now so...
if top fuel went turbo it would start like this:
http://www.maximumpsi.com/images/land/turbo/quad_turbo.jpg

If I remember right, that's a quad turbo Chevy based motor that lives in a Pro Stock Camaro. NHRA actually made him detune that motor significantly; I believe it's capable of close to three THOUSAND horsepower 8)

Edit: Found the link http://popularhotrodding.com/enginemast ... _turbo_bb/ (http://popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/0305em_turbo_bb/)

Very cool stuff; no gaskets in the entire motor for example.

3 thousand huh? wow.....he's almost got half the power of a fueler car :roll:

the other thing i was thinking was that the turbo's would have a bitch of a time dealing with the exhaust gas temps from nitro. I believe I read that the flame front from the exhaust tips of fuelers is around 7k degrees.....buh bye turbine wheel.

[Utah Joe]

Once again. Top fuel boats have been using turbos for years